Load development load data the best reloading manual. The new 190 gr subx subsonic expanding bullet features a lead core. I have had good luck with the lee 405 bullet for subsonic 4570 and 458 socom. Accurate has 300blk loads for subsonic and you can download the pdfs from their site.
All the factory subs i have seen run 220 gr bullets for 300 blk. Please contribute to the faq if youd like to post reloading equipment. It might allow you to build a bit more pressure and get lucky with cycling while staying subsonic. Kekkonen 1999 written for online magazines gunwriters on the web and firepower, along with the book silencer history and performance, volume 3. Faster than 1100 fps and you risk a sonic boom especially in colder temperatures. Rifle data book a lesson in dope primal rights, inc. But they do have data for the 338 federal, which is a 308 necked up, and data for 220gr cast. For instance, on a typical 308win i will have a 175smk load for long range paper punching and steel, a 180gr rn subsonic load, and a 150gr nosler ballistic tip load for hunting. I should have some chrono on the 168 gn trail boss soon to list. Remember, if you post a picture, make sure to provides some context please make sure you title is relevant to the specific question you are asking.
The hodgdon reloading data center rdc lists 21 different powder types that can be used in the. The rifle data book can be store bought or homemade but it is built upon hours of shooting in different conditions to help understand how the rifle responds. These loads and others were shot with trail boss powder in an attempt to develop subsonic velocities left to right. Hornady subsonic ammunition designed for accuracy and performance below the speed of sound now comes in both rifle and handgun loads.
Not all subsonic loads are noted as such in the data, because the cartridge is not capable of producing supersonic velocity. Subsonic ammunition specialists discreet ballistics. Were passionate shooting quietly is the only way we shoot. I ran it on ql and it says it would be around 1150 fps, 20,000 psi, and 35% case fill. That makes it a good powder for subsonic loads, because it occupies most of a cases capacity for powder. Shot from a mossberg mvp and silencerco hybrid suppressor. Most reloaders are comfortable with using h4350 in the 3006 but not as much in the. How to handload subsonic rifle cartridges and survive part one. The rifle data book is probably one of the prime most examples of data management used for long range shooting because it is quite literally a history of the weapon system. However, they are not recommended for rifles with barrels that have a 1. Ive developed and shot 338 federal subsonic for some time now, but this is the first time i had gotten a fixed barrel mount for my trident 9 and used it for 338 federal subsonic. With our load data you can search by caliber, bullet weight, powder, powder manufacturer or a combination of all four.
Home reloading reduced 308 winchester loads with trail boss. Subsonic loads refer to those whose velocity is less than the speed of sound. Were consistent weve tested it all and our subsonic ammo is the most consistent available. Lots of folks use trailboss so it is easy to get starting points. All data in this caliber is subsonic but is not normally tagged with the name subsonic. Subsonic handgun utilizes triedandtrue xtp bullets that expand reliably at subsonic velocities. Winchester superx ammunition has developed a reputation as being hard hitting and reliable. All these powders are appropriate in the listed loads. Permission confirmed in march 4th 1999 by author, ptk. The 20 barrel of the mossberg mvp predator rifle, used to shoot the loads in the. The purpose of this configuration is to create an effective combined subsonic full power platform for hunting and tactical situations.
If you want to shoot me a pm i can share whatever subsonic load data i. The lapua subsonic bullet lapuas subsonic bullet is the most widely used. Dope cards and ballistic charts gunsamerica digest. Subsonic i would stick with pistol powders, not concerned about cycling an action. I heard the hornady 212 eldx will not stabilize with slower velocities.
Were focused all we produce is subsonic ammunition. First, no matter what data you use, you will need a chronograph. I would think those would be good starting points for a. Could definitely use a load that shoots at fps w 165200gr bullets. Rn cast lead however i do use gcs on my loads are stable up to 220gr bullets with 1. Play around on our ballistics computer on this website. I liked the hogdgon recommended subsonic load because it used the same bullet sie 168 gr. No longer trying to get the most speed out of a cartridge, ive come to appreciate the light impulse of reduced rounds. Trail boss is very flaky so it will take some time to get used to in a powder measure. It is very quiet using the trident 9 suppressor for subsonic 338 federal.
Look at the data chart, no other bullet gives you this wound volume. Strategicallyplaced notches around the jacket mouth improve upset and ensure uniform expansion. There is a section for your contact info in the case this databook or weapon is. This ammunition is loaded with superx powerpoints which feature a unique, exposed soft nose jacketed bullet design that delivers maximum energy on target. The subx bullet used in subsonic rifle features a lead core. So what you get is exceptional penetration coupled with a larger permanent wound cavity. This is a big change from my earlier and younger days of reloading. Hodgdon lists data for a 165gr bullet but not a 168gr bullet with h414. Hornady match bullets 30 cal 308 diameter 168 grain hollow point as for a starting load, i would start low around 9.
A bolt action rifle was used for shooting subsonic. No hearing protection means comfort, communication and a simplified hunting kit to run around with all night. The subsonic bullet is designed especially for specialized short barrelled tactical rifles that have sound suppressors. Winchester superx ammo 308 winchester subsonic 185 grain. This prevents sticky waxy lubes from building up inside your can since the hybrid cannot be taken apart for cleaning. H414 is very close in performance to the the extreme powder h4350. And, yes, hogs died in the making of this report, and they did so consistently. Ive already loaded some 168gn trail boss to test but cant find any data for cfe blk. It only takes around 12 grains of trail boss powder to be right on the line of subsonic supersonic with a 200 grain bullet. Were innovative constantly pushing the envelope of subsonic. Hodgdon recommended subsonic 308 load silencertalk. If you are looking for a new subsonic hunting bullet this would be a good choice. A 20 barrel provides quite acceptable bullet speed for the 40some grains of propellant the. But no idea on load data as lyman doesnt go past 200gr in anything 30cal.
Im looking for subsonic load data for the 308 with a 200 grain bullet. It may be a reduced load, but way over subsonic velocities, which is what the topic is concerning. The permanent wound cavity of the xp is from two to four times greater than what a flat or ball nose bullet generates and often larger than traditional expanding bullets. Im running 220 gr round nose hornady or sierra over h110 for my 300 blk. The subx bullets can be used in 300 blackout or 308. In the interest of safety, i only use it for subsonic rounds. Special thanks to chad for making this video for the good of the group.
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